March 2, 2021

Keep Calm and Get Fired Up

It's our first trip to the Dogtrack, as we talk about the Apple TV+ show Ted Lasso with fellow Greyhounds from around the world! We use this introductory episode to share how we fell in love with Ted Lasso, and outline how we plan to talk about the show. Welcome!

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This is it - the first episode of Richmond Til We Die! Okay, technically it’s the episode before the first episode, but let’s not waste time parsing out the specifics. Richmond Til We Die is a podcast for the people - a conversation where fans of the Apple TV+ show Ted Lasso (and curious newcomers) can come together to appreciate this cast of characters who make us laugh until we can hardly breathe one minute and then feel with the deepest parts of our hearts the next.

On this episode, Christian, Brett, and Marisa explore the origins of the Ted Lasso sketch comedy character, discuss how they came to find and fall in love with the show, and give the listeners a heads-up on what to look for as they rewatch Episode 1. We hope you’ll join us every two weeks as we examine the relationships between the characters on this show and think about how they challenge us to be better humans.

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A full transcript of this episode can be found here.


Episode Transcript

Christian  0:07  

Welcome to Richmond Til We Die Til We Die episode conversation about the Apple TV plus show Ted lasso, where we explore the characters, their relationships to each other, and how they're able to make us laugh until we can hardly breathe one moment and feel with the deepest parts of our hearts the next. In short, this show is a place for fans of Ted Lascaux to build a community on the foundation of our mutual love for and appreciation of the show, and to evangelize to new followers. And this episode will delve into the origins of the series, share how we came to fall in love with it, and lay down how we want to watch and talk about the show from here on out. Now, let's get stuck in get stuck in dude, Stop looking at me like that. It's well known soccer vernacular.


Brett  0:50  

Okay, I'm gonna trust you. Hello, everybody.


Christian  0:58  

I'm Christian. Some people call me dash. I consider myself the soccer guy of this group. I also spent some time in Kansas City and am a certified Kansas City barbecue society. Judge. So you can believe that I will be tracking the barbecue cameos in this series. Wow. I don't think I knew that was a thing. very much a thing. Wow,


Brett  1:21  

I have a badge. You're very impressive. Thank you. Hi, I'm Brett I am I consider myself the music nerd of this group, which feels kind of weird to say because Marissa over here is actually a much better musician than me. But Marissa, you'd probably agree that I'm a nerdier music nerd than you, right. And I can accept that. And since Jason Sudeikis and Brendan have both talked about the intentional storytelling nature of the music used in the show, I've taken it upon myself to nerd out about that from time to time.


Marissa  1:50  

That's great. I'm Marissa, I'm married to Brett. Mainly I'm here because I hate podcasts. But I love Ted lasso. So anything for Ted lasso and to share his love with the world. Also here for anything relating to Keeley and Rebecca. And basically the women on the show who are amazing.


Christian  2:11  

I would just like to say for the record, neither Brett nor I refer to this as a podcast that was you referring to this as a podcast, we refer it as a conversation between friends. And we may occasionally call it a podcast on the internet to get Google hits. But it's definitely not a podcast.


Marissa  2:28  

Okay, well, just a conversation in our living room at our kitchen table. super high maintenance with microphones. But you know what, whatever we want to call it. I'm here for it. And I'm excited


Brett  2:38  

how we usually do things a very low key and casual conversation.


Christian  2:41  

One thing we do all have in common is that we love pop culture and the ways it can help us become better humans.


Brett  2:48  

Amen. That's right, Christian. I just want to say that you're really backing up your claim that you're the soccer guy by wearing soccer gear today, even though that none of our listeners will ever see it. So what's that shirt you got on today?


Christian  2:59  

This is the first soccer shirt I ever owned. It is a 2005 knockoff Barcelona shirt that I ordered off eBay back in the day when I wore. Because it was my first and you always remember your first also because it has a similar color scheme to Richmond FC, which is the club that tid LaSalle coaches. It does also bonus soccer gear today, as we tape this in early 2021. It is. There's a arctic blast hitting us. So I have some game style Portland Timbers socks on because all of my articles of clothing are going to need to contribute to my bodily warming including my hosiery.


Brett  3:45  

That's very important. Yep. A Christian now that you shared that amazing story about your first jersey I'd like for you to share another story all about how the concept of Ted last I went from being an NBC Sports ad to streaming on a major platform.


Christian  4:01  

I did I scoured the internet for all of this information near far wherever it are. So sit back and enjoy the ride folks. Jason Sudeikis was born in 1975 in Fairfax, Virginia, but spent most of his childhood in Overland Park, Kansas, which is a suburb of Kansas City. He considers Kansas City his hometown, and throughout his youth, Jason Sudeikis was drawn to both sports and acting. In 1988. The Kansas Jayhawks made it to the final four, which was played in Kansas City that year. His dad had tickets for him, but his dad really wanted to use the ticket to take a friend. Though he was a good basketball player at the time and like the Jayhawks Sudeikis saw he had leverage in the situation and traded the ticket back to his dad for a video camera so that he can make short films with his teenage friends so they can continue to play basketball and earned a scholarship to play at Fort Scott Community College in southeast Kansas. It wasn't going great after the first So he left the team and focused his energy on improv comedy. He began performing at comedy sports Kansas City before moving to Chicago to study at the annoyance theater and the IO theater. 


While in Chicago at Napier, who was a writing and acting guru, suggested Sudeikis go see Tracy Letts performance and Richard Greenberg's played three days of rain. It was that experience that helps Sudeikis he wanted to get into writing and acting and not focused solely on sketch comedy. That transition wouldn't happen right away. However, as he joined the second city touring company, a prominent improv and comedy group, and performed in Amsterdam, with sketch troupe boom, Chicago. I believe they performed with their clothes on even though it's questionable judging by the name while in the Netherlands in 2001 Sudeikis was performing with Brennan hut, a Chicago Bears fan who derided soccer is old and boring, but fell in love with the sports culture in Amsterdam. So they can hunt started playing FIFA soccer on the PlayStation before and after every show, which taught them about the game and caused them to consider what might happen if an NFL coach tried to coach a European soccer team. 


In the early 2000s Sudeikis became a founding member of the Second City Las Vegas crew. His goal at that point was actually to become a member of the Blue Man Group. He kept a shaved head and practice his drumming like crazy. Despite three auditions he never did get cast and blue AM. An alternate opportunity arose in August 2003. When Sudeikis was encouraged to audition for SNL. He didn't want to at first because he thought Saturday Night Live made people unfunny, though he now admits it was a deep down envy and jealousy, as well as the feeling that they would never take him. He said, and I quote, I didn't ever want that to be the something I could never do. 


SNL would end up being this something he could in fact do as the audition landed him a job as a writer on the show. It wasn't until a couple of years later on an episode that Tom Brady hosted, or Sudeikis got a chance to act. He helped write a Super Bowl shuffle sketch that required a goofy white guy to do a bunch of 90s hip hop dances behind Brady. But it turned out nobody on the cast could do it as well as to Sudeikis. He was a hit, and two weeks later was added to the cast. There were two times on Saturday Night Live or Sudeikis. Played coaches. One was in a Weekend Update segment where Seth Meyers wrote Jason and as a volatile Indiana basketball coach, Bobby Knight. In the other skit he has played a folksy college football coach that looks and sounds a whole lot like an early version of Ted lasso. 


In 2012, NBC Sports paid $225 million to acquire the television rights to the English Premier League, which is considered the most watched sports league on the entire planet. To build enthusiasm, they approach Sudeikis has to start in an advertisement where an American football coach gets hired to coach a soccer team in England. Their original idea was to have the character bills similar to Sudeikis’ angry bobby knight impersonation, but he wanted to go model it more after his dad's friends with the light Southern aw shucks that Kansans used to have similar to how former KU basketball coach Roy Williams carries himself. NBC agreed to go that route. 


But the TED lasso concept almost didn't make it off the ground. Premier League teams weren't interested in tying their brands to such an irreverent campaign. After rejections from multiple clubs. Tottenham Hotspur met the idea with enthusiasm, just as they were about to put the idea to bed and Ted lassa was officially born. The result ended up being a wildly popular ad that was well received by both English soccer fans as well as American sports fans and achieved viral fame on the website YouTube. When NBC decided to do a Ted Lasso sequel. The next year, what resulted was a more fleshed out version of the character that started to display hope and positivity. over dinner later that year, Olivia Wilde Jason's partner at the time suggested Ted Lasso should have his own show. So they started brainstorming right then modeling the idea on a six episode arc with a 90 minute special just like the British version of The Office employed. 


The idea percolated for a couple more years while Sudeikis worked on other projects. Then Bill Lawrence, the creator of Scrubs called him up and asked if they can meet to talk about working together on something it was in that meeting. That's the deck is shared his fairly well developed a vision for a Ted Lasso show, a concept that Lawrence loved the two of go on to create and pitch the show eventually landed with Apple, because they were the most enthusiastic about giving the show a truly international flair, and allowing them to stick to the short season arcs that wouldn't be possible on traditional broadcasts. And that, my friends, is how the magic was made.


Marissa  9:48  

I forgot By the way, I was born in Kansas City. So that like also is part of my bio. So there we go. Me and Me and Jason Sudeikis where


Christian  9:56  

you should start considering it your hometown.


Marissa  9:58  

It is Yeah, you I mean, Casey and Jason besties. That was really impressive.


Brett  10:05  

Yeah, that's an amazing story. I think it's funny that Brendan Hunt was not really into soccer before he moved to Amsterdam because he seems very much about it now.


Christian  10:16  

I mean, it'll get into your blood.


Brett  10:19  

Well, the my introduction to soccer was just buying a copy of FIFA for the PlayStation as well and just literally playing it with my cousins. I knew nothing about it. I didn't know how anything worked or who the teams were, but I was like, FIFA, FIFA is fun. It's a fun video game.


Christian  10:36  

My proper introduction was my senior year in high school, when I had the best job ever for a senior in high school, which was to work at the Nike town store in downtown Portland. And it was during the 1998 World Cup, that year where one of my French co workers would take me across the street. And we would camp out during our breaks at a hotel bar, drinking sodas, watching games and then scurrying back to work.


Brett  11:04  

But only sodas because you were good. Children


Christian  11:07  

Minor. I was quite young.


Marissa  11:12  

I like soccer too actually, I've really liked soccer growing up, my brother was like an amazing soccer player, he was so good that he was on the Junior World Cup team, right? Like for real and played and he was really good. I played to it was like the one sport that I was like, kind of good at and my parents let me play but I had to give it up. Because you know, when you're a musician, and your parents are like musically abusive, they say things like, you can't play sports, because you know, you'll break a hand and like, that's what's gonna earn you all your money and stuff. So, but I made it on the all star team once I was, I was really good.


Christian  11:53  

I'm surprised my French friends didn't mention you and your brother.


So all that being said, I do have a confession to make you guys what's your mission Christian? As much as I enjoyed the TED lasso advertisements. When I heard that they were doing a tab lasso show on Apple TV. I thought it was going to be horrible. And while I do not regret that reaction, I think the logic was sound even though I was wrong in my assumption.


Marissa  12:32  

Seven Hail Marys.


Brett  12:35  

Yeah, you need to repent. Yeah. Is that was


Marissa  12:38  

that what they say? When people like i


Brett  12:40  

think i think it varies right. In the other kind of football.


Yes. Yeah.


Marissa  12:47  

I absolve you of your sins. That Yeah,


Brett  12:52  

Yeah, I do. Remember watching those ads for the first time. That was when we were living in North Carolina. And I can I was right after I just really kind of gotten into watching the Premier League regularly. And I just started supporting spurs, just because I liked it. Their name was based on a Shakespeare character, and they have a fun logo. And so that was just a fun thing for me to all of a sudden this commercial that's going viral is about the team that I randomly chose to support. But they were really funny. So then, it's been several years those that was what do you say? 2013, 2014?


Christian  13:25  

Yeah. 2014.


Brett  13:27  

So the fact that it just now came back, and they're like, Hey, we're gonna make a TV show about it. It's just one of those things where you just kind of cringe and you think there's no way this is gonna be good. So I don't totally blame you either. Christian. Thanks. But yeah, our support group, we both do need to turn from our test. We turned from our ways.


Christian  13:47  

Wel l, no,


Brett  13:47  

we came around.


Christian  13:48  

I mean, let's talk about why we were one over we should have been right.


Brett  13:51  

Yeah. Right. So there are lots of reasons this show should have been terrible and it should have bombed and we should not be talking about it right now.


Christian  13:58  

Yes. First of all, most everything on Apple TV plus is terrible. And bombing, so it would have just been on brand for the channel.


Marissa  14:07  

Let's also talk about though how like from 2014 to 2020. Jason Sudeikis. Like, like a lot of like, white actor men like jerks..How dare they...have had like glow ups. So let's just talk about how he's like adorable, and how you know, every every one just like thinks that he's so cute as to lasso. So I'm just gonna say from the beginning. I was on board because he's adorable. You were just like writing the Jason Sudeikis. Yes, his glow up. I was on that train.


Christian  14:40  

You are a critical thinker. And I appreciate that about you. You're welcome. Yeah,


Brett  14:43  

the Apple TV thing. You're right. It's like really the only anything close to prestige show they have is the morning show that was nominated for what a handful of Golden Globes, but it's an underachiever.


Christian  14:55  

I mean, it's got jennifer aniston, Steve Carell,


Brett  14:58  

the goat Raceway, they are all kind of the go.


Christian  15:02  

Team. That's like saying, oh, the Yankees did a good job they made the playoffs.


Brett  15:08  

Be careful,


Christian  15:08  

right? You as Yankee fans know that that's not true because they spend more money than gods. So


Unknown Speaker  15:14  

this is not this is not the right podcast.


Christian  15:19  

It's always the right time and format to make fun of Yankee fans. But nevertheless, I will say that people may occasionally enjoy the morning show. But it's an underachieving show and really the only thing that's overachieved on that network in this era of prestige television, or you could go to any number of different services, and find good shows. The only thing that people really love is Ted last Oh,


Brett  15:42  

yeah. And I think you're right, that's, that's the big difference is that Apple TV has not had a breakout show that people have really been talking about. It's generated a lot of buzz and this really feels like the first one.


Christian  15:53  

And it's bonkers. Because there are a couple of things that just make this a very difficult task to pull off. First of all, like turning sketch comedy, a sketch comedy bit into a 90 minute movie is tough. Now to go and do like a whole TV show. That's like some minor miracle worker business like okay, what? In your mind? What would you say pop quiz is the  best. SNL the best movie to come out of Saturday Night Live.


Marissa  16:30  



Brett  16:31  

I knew you're gonna say. I was also gonna say superstar.


Christian  16:35  

Where are you? I mean, that's probably cuz you guys are young, the best movie. It's a tie. Some people will say Blues Brothers. Other people would say, Wayne's World.


Brett  16:47  

I have seen Wayne's World. So I would agree with the Wayne's World.


Christian  16:50  

Yeah, I mean, both of those get mid 80s on Rotten Tomatoes, so like, good solid movies, a little bit of acquired tastes. Now, there have been a total of 11 movies to come out of Saturday Night Live sketches. And if you take out the first two that we talked about the have the rotten tomatoes rating of in the mid 80s. The other nine average about 30% acceptance on Rotten Tomatoes. And that is including your beloved superstar, which I think props up the zero that one of the shows gets so there's not a lot there to work with. 


Brett  17:31  

One of them has a zero?


Christian  17:33  

Do you remember which one has a zero? Not on? It's not one I


Brett  17:36  

probably shouldn't. It's fine. We'll be nice. It doesn't matter. Probably Will Ferrell something real night at the Roxbury definitely isn't the zero? It's at least a six. Yeah. It's like it's passable. That's another good one. I think that was probably the first one that I ever saw. So I'm a little bit partial to that as like an SNL movie. Yeah.


Christian  17:53  

So we have sketch comedy. That's a thing. The fact that it's an ad campaign that you're trying to turn into something else. That's a pretty big Ding, like very an auspicious cast of ads that have made it big as shows or movies,


Brett  18:09  

like not very many ads have been made into shows at all.


Christian  18:13  

I mean,


Brett  18:14  

that's true. And the ones that have have pretty much all been bad.


Christian  18:17  

Yeah. Geico caveman. Horrible.


Brett  18:19  

Great ads.


Christian  18:20  



Brett  18:21  

I've never watched the show. But it sounds like


Marissa  18:23  

There's a show?


Christian  18:24  

There's a show. Yeah. Geico caveman show. That was bad.


Marissa  18:29  

Geico just needs to go.


Christian  18:30  

Nah, the geckos cute, but he's fine in 30 second increments. 


Brett  18:34  

And they didn't make a video game of the Geico Gecko. 


Christian  18:36  

Yeah, that was kind of fun. That's fine. Are you guys old enough to know the name Ernest P. Worrel?


Marissa  18:42  

Oh, yeah. Was he's always talking to the TV. Yeah. Like Ernest goes to camp. Yes. Ernest. I know some of the stuff was his friend. He's He's always talking to


Christian  18:51  

Yeah, he was on a regional burn. Yes. Burn. He was on some regional advertisements that made it big. And he has like a little bit of swag to him. The best of all time, Space Jam. Yes. But that took Bugs Bunny and all time. Great. And Michael Jordan, who I consider the Bugs Bunny of NBA basketball. He himself and all time. Great to pull that off.


Brett  19:15  

Correct. And it took a whole bunch of brand new technology that has basically like never been used in movies with green screen and such. Yeah, yeah,


Christian  19:22  

they take it to another level. They did take it to another level.


Brett  19:25  

I think the other interesting thing about Space Jam is that it's kind of I think, the closest I think it's maybe the most successful out of all of these sort of like ads turned into something else. At least it was my favorite but that's probably because I'm a millennial and we watch Space Jam a lot. But I feel like it's kind of a spiritual predecessor to Ted Lascaux because they use a lot of the same like they follow a lot of the same jokes from the original ad into. They end up using them like in the film and a lot of the same bits and things that obviously with just a film. It's a lot shorter than a whole season of television, but they reuse several of the same jokes. That which we'll talk about how they kind of do between the ads of Ted lasso and the television series.


Christian  20:05  

I mean, it is environmentally friendly to reuse jokes. Yeah. Yeah. So, okay, I get that stamp of approval. Also, it's pretty tough to do sports movies and sports shows is, here's why it's difficult, 


Brett  20:18  

I think especially shows. 


Christian  20:19  

Yeah, because you have to have people who can act and people who can be convincing athletes and that's difficult. Like do you ever see the movie blue chips with Nick milty and Shaquille O'Neal.


Brett  20:32  

I shot I saw Shazam with Shaquille O'Neal. But that's


Christian  20:36  

not a sports movie. No, genie is not a sports movie. Blue Chips, however, is a basketball movie. And they essentially like took a bunch of NBA players and cast them as like high school and college students. And so the basketball sequences were great. But the acting was junk. They tried to do it with decent job and he got game Spike Lee, they brought in Denzel Washington, who cabal a little bit, but he just had to buy like old guy. And they had Ray Allen, who delivered a bunch of stiff lines and played some good basketball. So it's just tough to get. It's tough to get the whole package.


Marissa  21:10  

Yeah, I agree. Well, I guess someone who's like a harsh critic with music is in my mind, it's like the same thing like watching people play the piano. Like, that's just painful, right? 


Christian  21:21  



Marissa  21:22  

Like Lala Land. But there's a different podcast


Christian  21:25  

that one will be doing because I never saw LaLa Land.,


Marissa  21:29  

I want to bring us back to why we're really here. Unless that's Ted last Oh, because I think those are all true statements about why things shouldn't work and ads made into other things. But Ted lasso made it and it's good, and the series is way better than just the enjoyable ads in my mind. So when we come back, we're gonna talk about why we love this show what we like about it, why we watched it, even though it may have looked from the outside, like maybe a show that shouldn't work. We're gonna share all the great reasons of why you should watch it. So come back after we go somewhere. And we come back.


Brett  22:16  

Okay, so before we tell the listeners why we each decided to watch the show, maybe we should first explain the premise of the show itself. So for the people who are more chill than us, and who haven't already watched season one four times. Marissa, would you tell the listeners what the Apple TV plus show Ted lasso is about?


Marissa  22:31  

I'd love to. That's why I'm here. Ted lasso is about an American football coach who makes his way over to England to take over a Premier League Soccer Club. There's sort of some hidden motivations as to why he is taking over this club. But he knows nothing about soccer, but is a great leader and wants to do some good work there. And it's interesting to see how that all plays out in this in Richmond, where they are all about the wins and losses.


Brett  23:06  

Yeah, so on its face. kind of sounds like a wild premise. So Christian, after all that we talked about in the previous segment, what in the world made you decide to start watching the show?


Christian  23:16  

The first thing that when we start to change my mind about the fact that it would be horrible was soccer people started talking about how it was pretty good after the first couple episodes. And then my wife heard rave reviews from Brene Brown. And if Brene Brown says that something is good, there's a decent chance that we will try in our house like it's not I'll put her a skosh half a level below Oprah, 


Marissa  23:45  

I thought you were going to say Jesus. 


Christian  23:49  

No. But still. Very, very powerful matron saint of all things pop culture in our family love burning. And so then my wife said that we should watch it. And she rarely ever suggests things for us to watch. And we rarely ever find things that we both enjoy watching. So when we found one of those things, it was it was truly a miracle.


Marissa  24:14  

It is really nice, because that's kind of how Brett I started watching. Brett like, loves anything about soccer anyway, and we loved the ads when they came out. But for us to kind of get into a show together, it takes a little bit of work for us to define sort of that Venn diagram of like, what is really like enjoyable for us both to watch and right away. I mean, just the first episode you get so much, it's hard to believe that they're like 30 minute episodes. I feel like so much happens, but we both like fell in love with it right away. And we were on the sort of front end of it. So we had to wait for each week to kind of the new episodes to come out. And that was hard.


Brett  24:52  

Yeah, I think we jumped in around...We started watching when they had just released like episode six or seven and so they were still ahead Have episodes left to watch. And we did not realize that it was a weekly show when we started watching it. So we plowed through, like six or seven episodes in one weekend. And then we got to the end. And we were like, oh, that didn't seem like the end of the season. And then of course, you know, you hop on Google. And you're like, Oh, no, there's like four more episodes, and we have to wait for them for weeks. So yeah, it was hard to wait for those episodes. But then once we finished the season, we were pretty much completely sold out for the show, we immediately wanted to introduce it to our family. Yes, it's a really is a show for the whole family.


Marissa  25:34  

I mean, despite the fruity language, it really could.


Brett  25:38  

Disclaimer, it is not a show for the whole family. Unless your children are like grown. 


Christian  25:44  

Well, but it is it's tricky. Because if you know Jason Sudeikis, from advertisements, or Angry Birds 1 or 2, you might think that it is a children's show. If you know Jason Sudeikis, from Horrible Bosses, Hall Pass, or his movie with Brie Larson Sleeping With Other People, you will probably be caught less off guard by some of the language and content, which a lot of it is less offensive because it's delivered in an English accent.


Marissa  26:14  

Yes, I agree totally.


Christian  26:16  

And people it's just a cultural difference. Like in England, the F word is used as a placeholder. So oftentimes, you'll hear it like when kids are taking a public speaking class and are nervous, you'll hear a lot of F bombs or when people get called on at church to pray, and they're not prepared. And they're just like trying to fill space like, it just shows up. So just understand the cultural difference and roll with it.


Brett  26:39  

You're saying we shouldn't judge Roy Kent for his abundant use of the F bomb, 


Christian  26:43  



Brett  26:44  



Marissa  26:45  

or the or the W bomb, which we don't use much here, but is really prevalent in the show. And I'm just no spoilers, obviously with that. So two of my heroes, Bernie Brown, which Christian mentioned, and Jen hatmaker are huge fans of the show. And it's been really fun to see how they again, we keep talking about being Ted evangelists. But how they're evangelizing the show as well, and just kind of his traits as a leader, and just how how bingeable it is, but just how enjoyable it is. So I'm excited to talk about sort of, like we said, the reasons why we're watching it and the reasons why we re watched it.


Brett  27:22  

Yeah, I'll be the third to talk about Brene and saying that it was really fun listening to her episode of Unlocking Us where she interviewed Jason and Brendan, and they all just talked about the show. And you can just tell she has such a love for the show. And it's, it's really infectious. And I think that's that's how we are to our friends and family who were just like, you need to watch this.


Christian  27:41  

So now that we're watching it, and rewatching it and asking other people to watch it with us. 


Brett  27:47  

Yes. watch the show. 


Christian  27:49  

How are we gonna talk about what we just watched again?


Brett  27:53  

Yeah, our approach to watching and talking about this show will align with what Christian shared at the top of this episode, where we'll explore the characters examine their relationships, and talk about how they're able to make us laugh really hard, and also how they make us feel really deeply. Essentially, we want to talk about how this caricature of a sketch comedy bit became a fully formed character, and that this world that's been built around him how it helps us to learn about our own world and about ourselves. The other thing is that Richmond Til We Die is not a recap show. So we will try to avoid simply recapping the action as much as possible.


Christian  28:29  

But we'll also try to avoid spoiling things further down into the season each episode, if you are watching it for the first time, 


Brett  28:38  



Christian  28:39  

In that spirit, in each conversation we have, we'll discuss one episode of the show. And each time we'll try to do a few things. One, we're going to try to identify a moment of relational significance, and discuss how the show challenges us to raise the level of our own emotional quotient. When it comes to the ways we relate to one another. In interviews, you know, the the show's creators, they've mentioned this as like a cornerstone of how they've envisioned and executed the show.


Brett  29:09  

Now admittedly, none of us are experts in emotional intelligence or behavioral science, but we're guessing that many of y'all aren't either. And that's okay. And it's kind of the point because together as fellow non experts will explore this shows beautiful themes of things like vulnerability and decency and mentorship and empathy.


Christian  29:27  

That sounds really deep,


Marissa  29:29  

Super deep. But we're also going to do some fun things to pop culture references, favorite quotes, one liners, play some games as some really fun questions. So get excited, get pumped, because this is a this is no ordinary podcast. This is just a really great conversation with friends around a table and microphones.


Christian  29:54  

Sounds deep sounds fun. I know that we have gushed about the show a lot. I promise this is not a multi level marketing scheme, we just want people to participate. So for folks who have not yet started the show, but want to be in this conversation with us, Brett, what should people look out for as they watch episode one for the first time,


Brett  30:16  

I think there's three things I'd point people to. One is that there are a lot of similar jokes. They reuse the jokes. We talked about this already, but from the ads both of them to the first episode in particular. So keep an eye out, keep an ear out for those jokes, and then start you'll start to see how they've soften the edges of this character they created in the ads and how this character is going to kind of change in the show. The second thing you should look out for is each of the characters kind of hurts and their insecurities, even in the ways they interact with one another. In this first episode, you start to see kind of what's motivating these folks what, what they're ashamed of, or the insecurities that they have. We'll see that play out throughout the season as their relationships grow in different ways. The third thing because I'm a music nerd is to pay attention to the soundtrack because there are a lot of places where the music that's just added on top of the dialogue or in scene transitions really adds a lot to what's going on in the narrative. So those are the things I would say Christian.


Christian  31:13  

Alright, team, it's time for us to go watch the first episode. It is appropriately titled Pilot. We will be back in two weeks we will continue our discussion. Until then. We are Richmond until we die. Thanks for listening. Keep Calm and get fired up.


Marissa  31:34  

Okay, y'all, that's our show this episode of Richmond Til We Die Til We Die. Christian Dashiell with assistance from Brett Callan. It was recorded, edited and mixed by Brett Callan. The podcast is brought to you by gin and kerosine Productions.


Brett  31:48  

You can check out the show notes for links to the articles and videos that we mentioned in this episode. Richmond till we die is available on Apple podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, and virtually every other platform. If you enjoyed this episode, we hope you'll take some time to go and leave a rating or review on your podcast app of choice. We'd really appreciate your support greyhounds All right, I'm Brett signing off for Christian and Marissa. Until next time, cheers y'all.


Marissa  32:22  

Ted's about a sexy white man with a mustache. [Laughter] This is kind of fun.